orcish axeman

Post by **turin** » April 3rd, 2004, 11:07 pm

would there be any interest in having an orcish unit with an axe? i was thinking i would make a graphic of an orcish unit like the warrior holding an axe. even if you don't want it, i will probably make it anyway, but it might be an interesting unit idea.
i was thinking it could be an alternative upgrade of grunt (as opposed to warrior).

Post by **turin** » April 4th, 2004, 3:13 am

seeing as there are no replies, i went ahead and made it. there are two versions, which do you like best? (or none)

Post by **Sangel** » April 4th, 2004, 3:38 am

To be honest, I can barely tell the difference. I do have a quibble, though - maybe it's because of the cursor conversation, but the axehead looks like an hourglass. Perhaps the Level 2 version at least should have a single-headed Axe? That seems more Orcish to me. Also, the head should be a notched, brutal-looking piece of metal, in my opinion - these are Orcs.

enki · Post by **enki** » April 4th, 2004, 6:53 am

The color and the shape of the axe head looks a bit strange IMO. Otherwise I like the images! They look quite similar and it's hard to tell which one is better. But if I had to choose, I'd go for orcish-axeman.png.

Christophe33 · Post by **Christophe33** » April 4th, 2004, 8:30 am

I don't the difference neither but I agree that the axe should be single headed, more round (maybe a bit wider even) while the handle could be a bit shorter...to give you place to grow for a level 3 units

benj · Post by **benj** » April 4th, 2004, 11:59 am

turin wrote:seeing as there are no replies, i went ahead and made it. there are two versions, which do you like best? (or none)

I see no difference between the two versions

Nice work. Perhaps the shape of the blade looks weird, too geometric and need some rework.

miyo · Post by **miyo** » April 4th, 2004, 12:14 pm

Single bladed axe.

- Miyo

Post by **fmunoz** » April 4th, 2004, 1:13 pm

The images are good but...
From a tactical point of view I see no point as axe is just a bladed attack.
From a artistic pov I tried to stay away of axes when creating the orcs I gave them curved swords (Scimitars and falchions) and advoided them ...

Post by **turin** » April 4th, 2004, 1:44 pm

fmunoz wrote:The images are good but...
From a tactical point of view I see no point as axe is just a bladed attack.
From a artistic pov I tried to stay away of axes when creating the orcs I gave them curved swords (Scimitars and falchions) and advoided them ...

i know, i just wanted to give them an axe. it looks cool.

the difference is between the left leg, on one of them it is straighter than the other.

i agree about the axe head, i'll probably fix it today.

Gafgarion · Post by **Gafgarion** » April 4th, 2004, 3:56 pm

I think it'd be a cool graphic for a unique character.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 4th, 2004, 4:01 pm

personally I don't think it brings much difference to the grunt units, they'd be a bit stronger and slower but for the rest it'd be more efficient for anew unit if it was slapped on something of different posture to make it a new tactical piece to use (for example a realy small guy with low hp normal speed and attack wich would make everyone fear it

Post by **turin** » April 4th, 2004, 4:12 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:personally I don't think it brings much difference to the grunt units, they'd be a bit stronger and slower but for the rest it'd be more efficient for anew unit if it was slapped on something of different posture to make it a new tactical piece to use (for example a realy small guy with low hp normal speed and attack wich would make everyone fear it

as in the orcish irregular?:
http://wesnoth.whitevine.net/forum/phpB ... .php?t=909

Post by **turin** » April 4th, 2004, 4:23 pm

for any who care, this is the orcish axeman revised.

Ave · Post by **Ave** » April 4th, 2004, 6:09 pm

They could have fewer attack numbers but bigger damage, and probably their movement could be slower. It could be a branch on the orcish grunt advancement tree.

Post by **Sangel** » April 4th, 2004, 6:23 pm

The shape of the Axe is right, but the colours are still all off. Try giving it a more pitted appearance... describing pixel-by-pixel changes is tricky at best.