Ageless Era - Current Version: 4.33

Post by **Ravana** » January 19th, 2024, 7:24 pm

I plan to release 4.32 this weekend with EoMa updates.

IPS · Post by **IPS** » January 20th, 2024, 7:45 am

Then I have no other option than doing the best I can do for Sunday 21th.

IPS · Post by **IPS** » January 20th, 2024, 11:18 pm

Done my part, let me know if I did something wrong so we can fix it in sunday in some time.
Did something wrong in clock-work upload one time, but I cannot delete the submit by myself.

The whole list of changes expected on 4.31 to 4.32 , as well of EOMA release.

Basically this udate will contain 2 balance reviews from me but in one release.

Spoiler:

Post by **Ravana** » January 20th, 2024, 11:21 pm

I added comments on the commits with issues, you should have emails.

Post by **Ravana** » January 21st, 2024, 5:01 pm

Ageless Era 4.32 is out on the 1.16 and 1.17 add-on server

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Version 4.32:
* Units and Factions
    * Era of Magic update
    * Rashy Era update
* Balance
    * Mostly changes about xp and resistances. Detailed notes can be found from https://github.com/ProditorMagnus/Ageless-for-1-14/blob/master/changelog/4.32/changelog-4.32.txt
* Bug Fixes
    * Deep elf darkness teleport
    * RE Aquana Warrior id conflict
* Other
    * Removed default time over advantage message
    * First release for 1.17

IPS · Post by **IPS** » January 22nd, 2024, 3:02 pm

Been doing some few tests around the new factions (FL) , while if I have played some several hours and tested, I could diagnostic the actual main deficits in Altaris faction , as well concluiding that all the corrections done to Blood Elves are correct and in gameplay they look fair and strong considering blood elves have no slowers nor healers.

More testing is going to be done around all Ageless, incluiding EOMA.

Listing some upcoming changes,ressults of my testing

Spoiler:

Atreides · Post by **Atreides** » January 22nd, 2024, 8:44 pm

Forgotten Legends is in now?? Wow. A personal fave of mine.

IPS · Post by **IPS** » January 22nd, 2024, 9:12 pm

Atreides wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2024, 8:44 pm Forgotten Legends is in now?? Wow. A personal fave of mine.

Yupy it was added like 7 months ago, in 4.30 , but the first 4.30 had certain bugs which been fixed in 4.31 and then in 4.32 AE variant of Altaris got buffed.

There are significant redesign in all factions, as some were too generic / factionaless virtues, so that been changed just a bit, but in short this did happen:
- Chosen is secret melee instead of blade , neutral instead of liminal
- Light Scout is Liminal instead of lawful, got some rasonably good ressistances for a swift-foot unit (30% on fire, no weaknesses in impact)
- Golems are completely different in lv2 than original ones, containing ranged attacks some of them!
- Altaris got standard of 30% arcane ressistance except in Light Scout.
- Altaris is planned to be 40% & 2 MP cost in frozen , 2 MP cost in mountains but only 20% defense in sand and 40% in mushroom (for 4.33 release).
- Some blood elves units got regenerates (Minotaurs, Phoenix, Max level Pyro mage)
- Minor resistances adjustment and movement costs more similar of EE & EOMA dark elves.
- Pirates got a lot of reworks too, still, even if stronger in Ageless (Except for no steadfast on lv1 sea monster) , they still underperform a bit.
- Natives are now 60% forest defense and 1 MP cost, additionally they have 40% on sands and are more resistant to (10%)
- Amazon's original design was really but really terrible, so archers got fire arrows in their ranged , harpies got a normal attack and a no-counter-attack too.
- Shield guardians got a slowing impact melee that can be used ONLY in offensive
- Murderess got improved a bit, so they can be viable in many more gamemodes.
- Amazons did also get bonus of 1 MP cost in forest, 60% in forest if I remember correctly and some amazons are 50% flat defense.
- Ageless did also fix all summon related bugs from original Forgotten Legends Era

Also I recommend to check all units in Forgotten Legends Era, as they might be significantly different in comparation of original ones, but belive me, more viable in Ageless Ecosystem with my changes.

Still I'm listing in the previous post (the one before yours) all changes I'm noting to add for ageless for a next release.

IPS · Post by **IPS** » January 30th, 2024, 10:33 pm

Yo, been a bit innactive in wesnoth community or testing, but I got some info to leak about certain ageless rebalance changes, specially adding more AND MORE existing roles among the units that already exists.

For example, I'ma clarify some of the already planned roles:

- Assasins: Melee units that usually do burst of high damage but are extremely fragible and they depend on sneak tactics, and assertive risk management. Most includes high damage values or backstab special. While this role exists in default, there are only 2 units featuring this role (Orcish Assasin & Thieves), but idea in Ageless is adding more diversity in this role.
- Duelist: Melee fighters that are swift and deadly in offensive, but are kinda bad at taking damage, they're something between Assasins and Fighters. Con examples of this are most swift foots with high damage, Seeker from Deep elves, Nightmaiden from Deep elves, Vampire duelists in both MiE and EOM (which are bit different because of different bonus in 4.32's).
- Clerics: These are a very specific type of healers, usually with lower ranged damage than other type of healers but they feature very often higher HP than mages and also a decent melee for retaliations, also they feature very low XP to lv3 as the damage gain is very minimal and HP doesn't carry matches at all. Kharos Prophetess is not at this role because she's more mage than Cleric.
- Sharpshooters/Snipers: it's the same than Duelist but ranged and with worse tankyness and ranged, the role exists in default with the Elvish Marksman, but I will make this role more diverse.
- Rangers: this role already exists in default, but best examples of more diversity in this role are from my Work on Rashy Era Rangers! which thanks of the approval of Vyrcyn I could manage to make each one of them very unique and less copypaste from others or even from default !!!

There will be also more sub roles in each category , for example, the easiest to explain are:
- Bruisers: they're fighter that shine at most because of high damages and they're very deadly in melee vs melee combat, but still their weaknesses are either poor tankyness OR poor movement (one of the two in most cases), in this category falls to Chaos Invaders, Minotaur Fighters (BEEM) , some others, still some units are more close of average fighter and others are more specific on this Bruiser Role.
- Offtank: They're like tanks that already exists in factions like Primeval (Bright shields) or in Orc Knagates (Shielders) , but unlike this TANKS, offtanks usually are bit worse at taking damage but deal more damage (UM before their buff was a perfect example of a Lv3 having Lv4 HP but lv2 Damages) , so I'm considering how to make more units to fall in this category as the only existing one is Titan in Enchanter's faction and some giants/colossus in very specific factions. Also offtanks features usually more HPs and tankyness than most melee fighters.
- Pirate fighter: this sound contradictory that most of the units in this role are from FL - Pirates, but to explain it, these fighters usually are low in physical resistances but usually with better fire/cold ressistances and bonuses in water tiles. Factions containing units in this category are also Swimmers, almost the whole South Seas from Archaic, and some other cases... but idea behind this making a whole world of fighters in this category.

As well , keeping most of defaultish roles but with a vast diversity of ways to archive this goal, as well making new more more unique roles that even very few units have, for example:
- Mobile Artillery: Best example of this role are the Scout robots in Arcahic, They are intend to be a kind of very mobile artillery that has excentric pro's and cons, avoiding being massively underpowered as they used to be in Arcahic Era.
- Whole world of spectres sub-roles: There a lot of different spectres with different attack specials and ressistance variations, so each one of this units is pretty unique.
- A lot more! which is even difficult to me to explain! XD

But in overall, the idea behind this 2024 is making Ageless considerably more balanced with EOMA buffs and ofc, making random generated recruit lists or random faction rols be much more entertaining specially in competitive (pvp) games. Ageless don't need to be perfectly balanced but fair enough to make RANDOM be fun enough to be an important aspect in the era.

Lastly, I'm planning to add the new units that I couldn't add before in 4.30 and 4.31 (few examples ARE ... a lv3 option B advancement for Blue Mage) , The Lv2 Mother Wisp on Deep Elves as well of the Corrupted which will contain very excentric ressistances (and weakness) and featuring secret ranged +aimed attack as deep elves are trully hard to balance out of a spam of BLADE / ARCANE / IMPACT (not even good mounts of pierce dmg at all) so it's a good argument that adding them a lv3 with secret attack could be a good idea. As well in a previous time after really long Steel Hive got their racketeers because Steelhive was not having any physical ranged attack which is impressible for a faction to be balanced.

And will regain the project on Ageless Great Wars some time soon, that project was not forgiven by me.

So, there will be a lots of news in this 2024 regards ageless and making it more diverse, fair and fun to use, so players don't feel ashamed if getting a "low" tier faction because even low tier factions will be viable enough to not leak and forcing a lose because of being so weak. Tierlist WILL STILL exist, but the gap will not be insane high between each step in the ladder.

IPS · Post by **IPS** » February 2nd, 2024, 11:58 am

IPS wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2024, 3:02 pm Listing some upcoming changes,ressults of my testing
Spoiler:
FL - Altaris
They struggle real lot in early game (as expected), but they have some decent early game options. Only issue is that players are forced to pick Lv2 Arcane Warrior as leader choice... because the other option as leaders aren't this very useful in early game...

First thing is that I guess, I will improve just a bit Altaris foot.
- Human Altaris frozen defense will be increased to 40% (+20%) , movement cost to 2 (-1)
- Human Altaris mountain movement cost to 2 (-1)
Each change must come with cons, they dislike exotic terrains just a bit.
- Sand defense decrease to 20% (-10%)
- Mushroom Grove defense decrease to 40% (-10%)

They will naturally like more cold climate and dislike hot or humid and dark climates.

Conjurer and advancement: They seem too fragible and actually a risky unit to go for. They needs buffs, but I got some ideas for them
- Swallow / Swamp movement cost from 3 to 2
- Impact ressistance from 0% to 10%
- Lv2 and Lv3 50% defense in flat (not for lv1)
- Lv2 & Lv3 HP increases by +2
- Lv3 will also be 40% or 50% in worse/bad terrains that are not impassable.

Pegassus opinion: scouts with both -20% on pierce and impact cannot work well, so they need something extra to deal with than just only terrible ressistances. Lv2 is nearly useless againist a considerable mount of units that are just resistant to pierce... it needs arcane attack on Lv2.
- Pegassus arcane ressistance will now be 30% on arcane (40% for lv2)
- Pegassus pierce ressistance will now be -10% (+10%)
- Pegassus on Lv2 will now have an additional 9-2 arcane +airbone +divine bonus attack in addition.
This might be enough to make Pegassus riders be a viable scout.

Light Scout review: They're a good lv1 that does better job than footpad, but misses lv2 or higher. Needs fix with AMLA menu upgrades. Will learn about how doing it, but bonuses that are planned as AMLA bonus are:
1) Join a botherhood: It will add +Botherhood special and +1 ranged damage, being both boosted and boosting other Altaris units with +Botherhood Special.
2) Better aim: adds +Skilled and +1 damage to crossbow attack
3) Faster firing: increases strikes by +1
4) Veteran's robes: improves blade/cold/fire/impact ressistances by +10%
All upgrades will also increase unit's HP by +4 , which means they will be a lot better than generic AMLA
Other thing to mention is that this upgrades will only increase XP by +10% instead of the standard +20% , so the unit can work considerably better

Golem review: they do work well, except in movement costs at moats, which will be improved as in case of conjurer (as well for some of their options) , will also look if it's fair it do bit better somewhere else too.

I had no complaints about Chosen,they're working as planned and are not abusable at all because of their low base HPs.
- Swallow / Swamp movement cost to 2 (-1)

Blood Elves did work smooth, at the momment I didn't find any important deficit in them. Will also be looking for the other FL factions too.

FL - Pirates
They performed significantly worse than expected, still , they got much early game than Altaris. Monsters needs some few more HP and minor upgrades, so they fit correctly their role. Lastly, it's a bad thing having only pierce and cold as attack types in ranged... so they do no ranged damage againist undead. So enchanters line needs a rework.

Enchanters review: they kinda leak a bit, particularly it makes no sense that their cold attack is weak againist the monsters they tame (Sea monsters) in a massive -50% damage againist them. So for logic and for balance purpose their attack change is going to be changed.
- Enchanters and level ups (with heals) , curse of the seas will now be an Arcane attack instead of Cold attack.
- Lv2 & Lv3 tamers will keep their cold attack intact (in lore I could explain why the change of attack type).
- All lv1 to lv3 enchanters & tamers will have +1 Movement and +1 HP per level !
- Lv1 enchanter price will increase by 1g more.

Tamers review: I tested them, they're trully very low in DMG's also have less uses than lv2 enchanters, they deserve a buff.
- Melee damage increase to 6-3 (+1)
- They will also have an attack only net attack 8-2 impact +ranged in lv2
- Lv2 XP will be decreased to 73 (-4)
- lv3 Net attack will be increased to 12-2 (+2) , aswell they will now gain an attack only 11-2 melee impact +slow +attack only, so this would allow them to slow in melee range too but only in offensive.

Buccaneers and advancements will now have +1 movement and lv1 costing the same!
The idea behind this idea is that most of the pirate units can of correctly support their beasts in swallow water terrain, allowing them to at least move 3 water tiles in a full moat positioning, which will also help in a lot of other terrains too! as I consider Pirates needs that because of being difficult to use in grounded rough terrains, so in case the monsters are too slow to be any useful then rest of pirates can work a lot better.
- All pirates will also be 40% in swamp, just because why not.

Lv1 serpents review: they underperfomed considerably, their damage is really low ... even if having two attack types in their melee. I preffer buffing them as well of increasing pricing.
- Lv1 serpent +1 all melee damages , +4 HP , slightly better movement costs at hill/forests (will look at which values) but also +2g cost
This will help them to be more viable unit in overall, as 7-2 was lower damage than merman fighter XD ... but it will be a lot tankier in a next release.

Harpooner at the momment will not be changed, as the unit is cheap HP's and it's pretty good if on high terrain defenses dealing againist lower defense enemies. Who knows, I could of consider making all harponeers to be 50% defense in moats, so they could have another purpose in the faction, at the cost of some few more XP to lv2.

Fishmen did fantastic! even I got complaints about the HP of the lv2 fighter, so In this one case I will just increase 2 more HP only in this specific fishmn.
Expecting that with this changes, pirates are a lot smoother to use in 4.33

FL - Natives
They're quite boring but still strong in their early games. Impact melee spam is bit boring , still best they can do is spam some shamans to have all healing, magical and decent melee retaliations and also being the most safe option if you don't know what are you fighting. Got complaints about the very high XP they have if played on 100% XP modifier. Shamans are also NOT 50% forest defense unlike the whole rest of the faction, which needs to be fixed.

Skullhunter in comparation of barbarian is purposeless except if playing againist enemies that are very weak impact, so I will decrease their XP far in bigger mount than barbarian and giving +feeding on lv3 , as there is a canibal in tribalist with this feature. Having 2 attack types with XP MOD or external upgrades rules, this is why Skullbreaker needs +feeding to be more pair to the other option.

As natives have no slowers, they need lower XPs.

- Barbarian XP to 77 (-7)
- Skull Hunter XP to 72 (-11)
- Skull Breaker will now gain +Feeding
- Seeker XP to 65 (-7)
- Druid XP to 77 (-8)
- High Druid XP to 110 (-15) , HP to 52 (+2)
- Storm Summoner XP to 77 (-6)

FL - Amazons
On my test, archers, harpies and tiger rideress did extremely nice, as well guardians are tanky enough for factional needs. Still I see some too high XP in the faction which I will correct later. Lv2 Dryads are slower than lv1 which means I forgot to buff movement in lv2 and higher while porting to FL. Mostly few corrections regards XP and some extras.

- Huntswoman XP to 70 (-5)
- Murderess XP to 67 (-13)
- Dryad & Forest Ghost movement to 6 (+1)
- Sentinel XP to 83 (-5)
- Warden AMLA XP correction to 150 (-2)

- All harpies will now be 60% on hills & mountains (instead of 50%)
- Cave defense to 40% (+10%) , cave movement cost to 2 (-1)
- Harpy Glidder will now be 65% in hills (5% more than other harpies) and 70% on mountains.

- Amazon & Spearmistress will now have +Inspires1
- Amazon XP to 67 (-4)
They're quite MEH units, particularly in Lv2, so boosting lv1 damage in lv2 and lv3 seems okay as this unit has not much use talking sincerely.
- Spear Mistress XP to 115 (-10)

This post might be edited when more content is added.
This post will just be to I don't forget what I once planned.

Other random changes

EOM - Windsong
- Prophetess XP to 72 (-8) -they're a pain to level up-
- Ascendant will now be +10% defenses in all bad terrains (frozen, sand, waters, as well of 50% in flat)
Hard unit to use well, particularly a melee slower that has only 49 HP on lv3...

EOM - Vampires
Differences between EOM and MiE vampires will increase. EOM vampires are weaker but have more plague, still, EOM are weak to arcane unlike MiE so they need some compensation to counter this leak.

- Blood Manipulator & Sangel movement to 6 (+1)
Actually Blood Manipulator is underperforming compared to most mages, this extra movement will help them to not underperform.

MiE - Vamires
Variations between MiE vampires and EOM vampires will increase, MiE are stronger but have much worse plague special, so they are less plague based.
- Soul Hunter AMLA XP to 126 (-24)

MiE - Thelians
By what I've been testing, Thelians are actually in a good status (tier list), the combination of lots of 60% in terrains as well at having 20% human ressistances makes this faction shine even if they don't own high physical ressists. Still some rebalance changes will be done.

- Spirit and advancemnet movement to 6 (-1)
- Forefather AMLA XP to 166 (+16)
Spirits needs nerf, they're so beast, at having increased fire ressistance makse this spectre variant among the best ones in all Ageless.

- Spiritual arcane ressistance to 30% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Nimrod AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Master of Curses AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Brave Wolf AMLA XP to 134 (-46)
- Guardian AMLA XP to 126 (-24)

MiE - Centaurs
Minor AMLA adjustments, seems buffs worked smoothly in this faction.
- Centaur Heroic AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Horned Elder AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Dehorned Scoundrel AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Protector of Hoofs AMLA XP to 126 (-24)

ME - Blight
Tested them, and they can work well, but when certain situations and enemies are meet, blight cannot stand. They defenetively need increased arcane ressistance, as if UD in default gets arcane buff, why not blight?

- Charred Zombies & advancement sand defense to 30% (+10%) , sand movement cost to 2 (-1) , frozen defense to 40% (+10%)
- Charred Zombies arcane resistance to -30% (+15%)
- Mutilated Corpse arcane resistance to -25% (+15%)
- Dreadbones arcane resistance to -20% (+15%)
- Dark current swarm adjusted to swarm(2) , frozen movement cost to 3 (-1) , same on all advancement!
- Blacktide XP to 75 (-13)

- Fetid & advancements frozen movement cost to 2 (-1)
- Fetid HP to 41 (+3) , price to 21g (+1g)
- Rancid XP to 75 (-5)
- Cadaver and all advancement arcane resistance to -10% (+10%) , fungus defense to 60% (+10%)
- Zombie will now have BloodLust(+3)
- Flesh Eater will now have BloodLust(+4)
- Infected Hound and all advancement arcane resistance to -10% (+10%) , frozen movement cost to 2 (-1)

- Microbe & Bacterium unwalkable defense to 40% (+30%) , movement adjusted to 2 (from impassable)
- Bacterium arcane resistance to 25% (+5%)
- Blighted cold resistance to 10% (+10%)
- Host and Spire Hive frozen movent cost to 2 (-1) , fungus defense to 50% (+10%)

- Blobs & all advancement (except acids) frozen movement cost to 3 (-1)
- Blob , Slime & Oozes will now regenerates+3
- Amoeba will now regenerates+4

ARCHAIC - Primevalist
They need more arcane resistance, as the other factions got XP buffs... this make Primevalist be in a worse place in the meta which they used to be.

- All female primevalist arcane resistance (low level) is set to -20% (from worse)
- All femaleprimevalist lv3 arcane resistance is set to -15% (from worse)
- All male primevalist arcane resistance to -15% (+5%))

- Iron Wheel XP to 84 (-4)
- Velite movement to 6 (+1)
- Hastate XP to 68 (-6)

- Primevalist Fanatic XP to 75 (-5)
- Brightshield secret resistance to 10% , XP to 82 (-8)
- Sunshield secret resistance to 15%

- Driver XP to 80 (-6)
- Escort XP to 85 (-5)
- Striker & Gyrestriker will now have +Magic-counter special in melee

ARCHAIC - SouthSeas
Southseas do not have a formal tank (Excluding XP mod gust) , so they will get versality buffs.
- Southseas human will now be 30% defense in frozen and 2 MP cost in frozen.

- Sky Caller & Sea-Scourge movement to 6 (+1)
- Sea Rover & Sea Wolf swallow water defense to 50% (+10%)
- Sea Wolf deep water defense to 40% (+10%) , deep water movement cost to 2 (-1)
- Deckmaster will now have a 9-3 impact attack in addition
- Salvager rope damage increase to 7-2
- Maine AMLA XP to 126 (+26)

IMPERIAL - Orcei gladiatore
Minor XP decreases and very minor buffs.
- Essedarius Vulpis cold resistance to 10% (+10%)
- Venator Faber fire resistance to 15% (+5%)
- Laquerius XP to 42 (-3)
- Laquerus Faber & Fleet Retarius fire resistance to 10% (+10%)
- Khampsa Audentis cold resistance to 0% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 134 (+14)

- Dimacherius Fortis fire resistance to 10% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 126 (+26)
- Murmillo XP 80 (-5) , fire resistance to 0% (+10%)
- Murmillo Fortis AMLA XP to 134 (+34)
- Provocator XP to 75 (-7)
- Provocator Leonis AMLA XP to 134 (+34)

- Feral Bestarius fire resistance to 10% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 134 (+34)
- Brutal Paegniarius fire resistance to 10% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 134 (+34)

- Hoplomachus Fortis fire resistance to 0% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 126 (+26)
- Secutor Leonis AMLA XP to 134 (+34) , secret resistance to 10%

- Secutor Leonis HP to 57 (+4)
- Thraex XP to 72 (-12)
- Thraex Paratus fire resistance to 10% (+10%) , AMLA XP to 126 (-24)

ME - Emperors Guard
Minors buffs, as most high tier factions in EOMA got buff. While not having healers is a heavy punish.
- Musha XP to 75 (-5)
- Ninja Assasin XP to 72 (-5)
- Ninja Warrior XP to 70 (-5)
- Kyushu XP to 74 (-3)
- Bushi XP to 80 (-5)
- Starshower HP to 45 (+3)
- Kyo XP to 70 (-4)

ME - Hive
Versality buff to hive because they don't have mages.

- All ground insects (except hopper & spiders) cave movement cost to 1 (-1)
- All ground insects (except hopper & spiders) sand defense to 40% (+10%) , frozen defense to 20% (-10%)
It makes more sense that insects do better in hot climates.
- All spiders mountains movement cost to 2 (-1)
- Tarantula XP to 75 (-7)
- Trapdoor spider cave defense to 50% (+10%) , sand defense to 40% (+10%)

EotF - Welkin
Some buffs to the faction, as they need to stand better againist stronger EOMA factions.

- Talon Warrior XP to 72 (-8)
- Whirl Wind XP to 70 (-9)
- Sentinel of moon XP to 83 (-5)
Pyronation and advancement will now be 10% fire resistance.
- Pyronation XP to 90 (-10)
Elder Sage and his advancement will be 10% cold resistance or higher.
- Battle Sage HP to 48 (+2) , XP to 67 (-8)
- Battle Seer is now 50% flat defense!
- Quickdraw XP to 75 (-5)
- Shadow Raider HP to 35 (+1) , XP to 90 (-10)
- Twilight Slayer NEW ATTACK: Arcane 5-4 melee , flat defense to 60% (+10%) , price to 30g (+2g)

EotF - Brungars
Some buffs in resume
- Amateur tamer XP to 50 (-4)
- Experienced Tamer & Expert tamer will now have +parry(+5%) in their melee
- Experienced Tamer XP to 100 (-10)
- Overgrown crab XP to 70 (-5)
- Dwarvish Huntsman XP to 63 (-7)
- Dwarvish Huntsmaster HP to 56 (+2)
- Harpoon Specialist XP to 69 (-21)

- Apotechary movement to 5 (+1)
- Herbalist HP to 37 (+2)
- Practitioner HP to 50 (+4)
- Herbicider HP to 45 (+2) , XP to 67 (-11)
- Toxin Specialist HP to 59 (+2) , will now have +Cures (can treat alies from poison)
- Ice Apprentice HP to 42 (+2)
- Crystal Master HP to 56 (+3)
- Wave Rider XP to 75 (-5)

EotF - Nordhiris
- All nordhiris mountain movement cost to 2 (-1)
They still are 50% on mountains, but they move smoother.
- Tribal Sage XP to 74 (-4)
- Wiseman HP to 54 (+2)
- Northern Strongbow XP to 68 (-4)
- Northern Great Bow HP to 56 (+2)
- Oathstorm ranged damage increase to 7-4 , AMLA XP to 134 (-16)
- Slaughterer HP to 52 (+4)
- Northguard XP to 63 (-7)
- Frost Dasher XP to 63 (-7)
- Farseer HP to 41 (+2)
- Artic Prowler frozen defense to 60% (+10%) , HP to 65 (+2) , AMLA XP to 126 (+26)
- Dire Reaver HP to 46 (+2) , now has +first-strike in melee

Heard that in March 17th will be the 1.18 wesnoth update, so I'ma work hard to list, extend and then implement the changes listed IN THIS LIST. And still adding more in the list while some days occurs, I plan to implement them in the 2nd week of February.

Some values could differ in the end result, but most of these values and proposals will be kept intact. I'm starting to implement and code once I got so many and want to transcribe the changes.

Atreides · Post by **Atreides** » February 12th, 2024, 4:42 am

Found a tiny error in the Hipparch (calydonian BEEM). It's looking for ...sword1/2 in it's hit anim but the files are ...attack1/2

Post by **Ravana** » February 12th, 2024, 11:48 am

Noticed it too https://github.com/ProditorMagnus/Agele ... 85ef4002d4

IPS · Post by **IPS** » February 20th, 2024, 11:35 pm

Uploaded all planned balance changes, but considering I'm sick I doubt there will be any chances of planned new units in this release

The list of changes been quite long still not as long as most balance reworks... still there were some significantly drastic changes in certain factions as in Blight and many others which I wanted them to have much better performance at exotic terrains because their gameplay is just bit awful without that...

Lastly, in 4.34 my goals will include adding more descriptions and probably working in the Lore of certain units that right now have no descriptions. The first ones on my focus are Altaris, Blood Elves and Frozen. While still working gradually and slowly in pirates descriptions to match their society.

Lastly, still have in mind working in certain Ageless projects as this one named Ageless GreatWars, which I hope it be done somewhere behind Q1 and Q2 of this 2024.

For my surprise, in my review I realized that some of this factions were working significantly worse than what I guessed they would... so in some cases big changes were required.

This is the changelog (balance changes) that will be added in the next Ageless update.

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IPS · Post by **IPS** » March 1st, 2024, 3:24 pm

After I realized I got lot more time to work in Ageless Stuff, at certain point I realized that the mount of factions that I didn't review were so few in comparation of already reviewed... so... all factions BEEN analyzed in this pre 1.18 cause of that!

So including 4.32 and 4.33, al factions been analyzed, and some been analyzed twice CONSECUTIVELY (particularly the more experimental ones as FL - Altaris and AE - Deep Elves.

The EXCEPTION to this norm, are:
1.- Kthons, the codes behind thrallment is A MESS, units not having a special on melee attack gains this THRALLMENT special, so adding new attacks or stuff to make this unit act different is akward and dififcult progress, so I don't review this.

2.-EOC - Quenoth Elves, personally I rather discontinue this faction from pickable factions, I've espent some effort in AE - Desert elves some time ago to replace EOC - Quenoth Elves, appart that somewhere Quenoth Elves are a different project that is far more important than EOC - Quenoth Elves which I think, deserves far better the name than EOC variant... better just remove and focus more in AE - Desert Elves in my personal Criteria.

3.- I plan a day to re-open as playable faction EOC - Summoners (or elementals) , as one time I was working in rebalancing them ... and then SOMEONE

magically locked that faction even if in that momments it was having better balance than EOM - Elementals in 2018 times. I personally see no truth reason to lock this faction this way lol , even some units as Ethreal Orbs and summoner line (summoners been rebalanced by the way, the rest not) were interesting propossal as units.

Just a explanation of certain changes and goals archieved in 4.33

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1.- Before this release and review, AE factions were in terms of balance were atttempts to be somewhat close of default 1.16 , but guessing that a lot of players just started to only use EOMA and having a adverse reaction from players discriminating EOMA only players, it was clear I had to break this default-like pattern for 1.18 times... So most factions got considerably buffed in this release (Including External RE interventions by myself) as well of some cases in EOMA itself that were underperforming compared to other EOMA factions/units in the same era.

2.- In my personal criteria, non spectral low HP units are these that deserves most attention and care about potential buffs, as from experience, HP is comfort while holding your line and also, not being forced to fall back while trying to hold very valuable terrains for longer periods of time before considering it's worthless keeping it. Thefore, most low HP fighters (at most) been buffed significantly, pariticularly low HP but mobible melee duelists which, are good at dealing damage but bad at taking damage from many angles in a single turn.

3.- Intentionally made lawful/chaotic factions far more different than just a different ToD , in overall, lawful factions are more solid while holding their lines but bit slower when have to fall back (Chaotic factions in most cases are intentionally smoother in movement costs, as well of having as cons more commonly negative arcane resistances instead of POSSITIVE to differenciate more from LAWFUL factions). But appart of the arcane res/weak topic, they have significant differences than just that (for example, lawful factions are more commonly more focused in BASE stats as resists, HP and healing... while chaotic depends more in more tactial tricks and better movement costs to also work).

4.- Expanded in a whole world and context the duelist role, units that as said in 2.- are low in HP and deadly in offensive, as well sometimes having extra stats as 50% flat defense or parry(5%) -most frequent in melee- to make their role be more viable, appart of being more mobible than fighters like loy-sworsdmen they also pump to lv3 significantly faster which means they can act as very early high melee damage dealer. On this topic, also there are certain exceptions that are "HIGH DAMAGE hybrid dealers as Aragwaith Slayer" that their only virtue is having HIGH hybrid damages at the cost of really trash tankyness (Yup, even with buff, this unit IS NOT META)

5.- Expanded new horizons on Rangers role (since some time ago) particualrly at RE era and many others, in factions without healers these units can sometimes just treat poison to allies, to at least allow the factions to rest-heal in miserable conditions without villages or oasis and not dying because of very harsh/trashy terrains this often... particularly if having very good units being poisoned... as well some other units that are naturally low in stats, will do also have this +heal(poison) feature just to make them bit more interesting.

6.- Almost any archer got any feature to mark, some are 50% flat defense (as some duelists), others have minor accuaracy bonus of +Aimed (50% marksman) or any ANY thing that allows them to be bit more different and be less generic copy-paste random AE archer lol ... specially with the Ozutsu in Emperor's guard which when I analyzed it was weird to me that a faction got TWO generic archers.... so I made Ozutsu 60% defense in hills and 40% in forests to make them be tactically different from Yumi appart of just a different melee damage type.

7.- Lastly, spent a big effort in making all players kinda enjoyable and playable, so this performance buff will help the most to RANDOMISTs who tries almost everything or random recruitment list, so in case you got unlucky with no excelent units you will much easier make a good game.

8.- Increase the viability of MAX lv2 units in most factions, particularly at early game options OR in case of SLOWER-ONLY units making them work much better in late game.

Changelog 4.33

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IPS · Post by **IPS** » March 4th, 2024, 5:33 pm

Few things been added and also leaked some plans of upcoming new units for another release (not this 4.33)

And also added a massive rework on AE - Deep Elves to finally take rid of EOC - Quenoth Elves in this update.

I think most probable is that I don't touch anymore upcoming release 4.33 , but if I do , this post will be edited with the mention of all added/modified.

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