Aragwaith Unit Images 2.0

Post by **wayfarer** » November 20th, 2005, 5:14 pm

For test purposes I have thrown my original and Neorice's edit together and I want to know what do you think about it.

I bet that dibblethewrecker will have problems viewing them again.

Emmanovi · Post by **Emmanovi** » November 20th, 2005, 5:51 pm

I think you're not gonna like this wayfarer, but....

IMHO, Neo's edit (Middle) is more defined, and looks better.

HOWEVER, I understand that his might not fit the "feel" of the faction.

Post by **torangan** » November 20th, 2005, 6:29 pm

I'd say give the right one the spear of the middle one and use the result.

Oreb · Post by **Oreb** » November 20th, 2005, 7:45 pm

i like the combined neo and wayfarer style

Post by **turin** » November 20th, 2005, 8:42 pm

I think the face on Wayfarer's is not defined enough. I like the blend the best other than that.

Naeddyr · Post by **Naeddyr** » November 20th, 2005, 8:45 pm

The problem with Wayfarer's style is that it's cramped when you try to put it into Wesnoth scale. If units were larger, then they would much much better than the wesnothian style - but on smaller scales, it's better to go with more clear and cartoonish looks.

EDIT:

I like the combination, though. It's pushing the borders forward

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » November 20th, 2005, 8:51 pm

I like middle one, but you fight with outline, so...

Post by **Darth Fool** » November 20th, 2005, 9:59 pm

one on the right. The middle one's hair is just wrong.

Woodwizzle · Post by **Woodwizzle** » November 21st, 2005, 3:16 pm

one on the right looks good to me.

WanderingPaladin · November 21st, 2005, 5:58 pm

Naeddyr wrote:The problem with Wayfarer's style is that it's cramped when you try to put it into Wesnoth scale. If units were larger, then they would much much better than the wesnothian style - but on smaller scales, it's better to go with more clear and cartoonish looks.

EDIT:

I like the combination, though. It's pushing the borders forward

That sums it up nicely

Post by **yobbo** » November 22nd, 2005, 5:28 am

vote +1 --> "wayfarer-neo-wayfarer blend". I think the one on the right looks great. I never was a fan of the aragwaithi, but if any more of the units end up this clear and polished, I will be

. In fact - the more I look at it, the better it gets. I hope you do more of this.

Post by **Kestenvarn** » November 22nd, 2005, 12:00 pm

I still prefer the original edits neo came up with. The dark outlining makes it so you can actually see what's going on, while wayfarer's are fuzzy.

Post by **Jetrel** » November 22nd, 2005, 6:19 pm

Wayfarer being the artist who drew these, and an artist who is fairly competent, I'll trust to choose whatever graphical style he likes.

There are advantages and disadvantages to different graphical styles. Dark edges can make something look more defined, yet at the same time, partition an object into large sections. For an example of the bad things it can result in, the hair on the most recent image, in neo's edit, tends to look somewhat like a cloth keffiyeh - effectively making it not look like hair at all.

It is true that Wayfarer shows very little of the eyes in his images. Though I don't suggest drawing them with the procedural "two white pixels next to two black pixels", I do suggest making somewhat clear and visible eyes, one way or another. That's about the only thing that I disagree with about his style of drawing faces - and frankly, in many cases, suggesting the eyes instead of explicitly drawing them comes out perfectly fine. To comply with wesnoth's graphical style, we do need to be careful to at least suggest eyes, though we don't need to draw them explicitly.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » November 23rd, 2005, 5:32 pm

I like your one best Wayfarer (the new one), but i agree with Jetryl and Torangan here.

martenzo · Post by **martenzo** » November 24th, 2005, 6:44 pm

I like the newer better. However, like some rule said, the pose hs to change when a unit levels up, unless a major detail is changed (like, when leveling up, the unit loses it's shield).