Drake Pillagers

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » April 2nd, 2005, 5:32 pm

MadMax wrote:a cataphract is actually a horse-mounted heavy warrior, called a cataphract because the horse is armored along with the rider.

That is only one of the many meanings of 'cataphract'; Among the others are Ancient Roman scale armor, and a kind of lizard scales, the second of which makes it particularly approprate for this unit (sort of.)

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 2nd, 2005, 8:50 pm

I wonder, Can anyone check their temporarily internet files if there is like; Any of the old drake graphics that never got included in the game there? I really can't get myself to do graphics for units that I've done good graphics for before (Like the 3rd level skydrake) And I 'd really appreciate it if someone, if not anyone could manage to retrieve even but one animation sequence.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 2nd, 2005, 9:32 pm

Actually nevermind that, Apparently I was smart enough to save some things; Here are some more fixed trees; Animations were still lost sadly.

Post by **Jetrel** » April 2nd, 2005, 10:55 pm

All very cool.

The only thing I would say is - is there any way we can lose the prehensile tail thing on the gladiator?

If we could split it so that the gladiator carries a mace and a sword, and the slasher carries the halberd, two good things would happen, IMO:

A] No one would be bugged by the "carrying a weapon in his tail" thing.
B] The units would have distinct purposes - gladiators would be used for smashing things like skeletons, and slashers would be used for attacking cavalry.

Right now - they don't have a lot of merit in terms of gameplay distinction.

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If you animate the level-3 sky drake, I'll implement it myself.

Post by **turin** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:08 pm

Looks good.

but the sky drake doesn't really look like a higher level than the 2nd level one... I think it has to do with the wings making the 2nd level look larger.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:14 pm

Jetryl wrote: All very cool.

The only thing I would say is - is there any way we can lose the prehensile tail thing on the gladiator?

If we could split it so that the gladiator carries a mace and a sword, and the slasher carries the halberd, two good things would happen, IMO:

A] No one would be bugged by the "carrying a weapon in his tail" thing.
B] The units would have distinct purposes - gladiators would be used for smashing things like skeletons, and slashers would be used for attacking cavalry.

Right now - they don't have a lot of merit in terms of gameplay distinction.

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If you animate the level-3 sky drake, I'll implement it myself.

Well could be so but It's running late and I don't feel like editing the graphics at the moment; And I kind of lost the animations for the sky drake, Are you sure you can't do them? Because I have alot of things on my head at the moment.

Draconio · Post by **Draconio** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:20 pm

The level 3 Glider's wings look more like a cloak to me...

Post by **Jetrel** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:26 pm

Mr. Jack: "Gee, Jetryl... couldn't you just make it yourself instead of trying to twist neo's arm when he's being nice enough to come back here and do work"

Jetryl: "uh, yeah, I guess I could"

And then he did - A gladiator with a big-o mace, and an empty tail:

Jetryl: (Hopes neo doesn't take offense)

Post by **Jetrel** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:29 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote: Well could be so but It's running late and I don't feel like editing the graphics at the moment; And I kind of lost the animations for the sky drake, Are you sure you can't do them? Because I have alot of things on my head at the moment.

I CAN DO THEM.

Thank you for coming back.

Speaking of which - I'll actually start committing the thing as soon as we decide on a name...

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:29 pm

Hey that's neat, I'll take it.

Who'se Mr.Jack?

Attila · Post by **Attila** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:31 pm

that is on damn big mace

Post by **turin** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:33 pm

Draconio wrote:The level 3 Glider's wings look more like a cloak to me...

Same here... these graphics have been posted before, and I thought that then too. I'm not sure what effect neo is trying to accomplish, but for this particular image, it doesn't seem to be working.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:38 pm

I'm trying to make him have his wings like a cloak.

Post by **Jetrel** » April 2nd, 2005, 11:48 pm

turin wrote:
Draconio wrote:The level 3 Glider's wings look more like a cloak to me...
Same here... these graphics have been posted before, and I thought that then too. I'm not sure what effect neo is trying to accomplish, but for this particular image, it doesn't seem to be working.

It's OK. It looks cool, so long as he opens the wings up whenever he flies/does a melee attack. If he keeps them closed then, it looks a little silly, but as just a standing frame, the idea is cool, and gives the guy a lot of character.

Post by **Jetrel** » April 3rd, 2005, 6:03 am

This is a half-finished flying frame for this fellow. His wings are notably larger than those of level-2.

Neo - I don't know what kind of armor this guy was supposed to have under his wings (and - he never opened his wings in the old animations, IIRC). If you could fill it in, that would be great.

The bit hanging to the right is the belt that showed beneath his wings in the standing frame.

Once I know what his actual armor is supposed to look like, he should be fairly easy to clone out into other frames - obviously, he looks a lot like level-2, so large parts can be copied and meshed together.