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Retlin
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I need help too!

Post by Retlin »

Ok, maybe im just retarted, but i looked over the FAQ and stuff, but i can not uderstand the stuff about making a multiplayer map and getting more options. I have tried to do what I thought it said, but I get no more options, and I was wondering how you make people. Is it on the MapEditor? or the CAMPGEN. If its on the CAMPGEN, can someone tell me where to put it so I can use it. Thanks guys!
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Post by scott »

What options are you thinking of? Do you mean adding units to a map?
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Retlin
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Post by Retlin »

Yes, that is one of them. It also said something about experience. I basically want to be able to add units though. I think that will suffice for now. Can you tell me what to do?
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Post by scott »

Yes, but it's not trivial. Making maps is easy. Adding stuff is much harder. Neither the map editor or campgen is appropriate for what you want to do.

You need to use WML to create a map scenario file. Here is an example. It's the scenario code for Blitz:

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[multiplayer]
	id=multiplayer_Blitz
	name= _ "2p - Blitz"
	map_data="{maps/multiplayer/2p_Blitz}"
	description= _ "A duel map for super fast play. Recommended setting of 2 gold per village."

	{DEFAULT_SCHEDULE}

	[side]
	side=1
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=north
	[/side]
	[side]
	side=2
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=south
	[/side]

[/multiplayer]
It comes straight from wesnoth/data/scenarios/multiplayer/2p_Blitz.cfg.

So, let's say you created a map in the map editor, and the file looks like a normal map file - a rectangle of letters. For example:

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hgffhmfghgggkcckhfhmm
ggtghggggCCCkckfmhwfh
fgggmfgrrC1Ckckfmgfvm
hmgggrrghgCkr\gggggfh
fhgrrgggfkkccgrrgvggm
mvrggvghtkcggwwwrrgrr
hgrfghfkfkcgwwYwhmrtg
ffrfhkccccZcgwwmfrrgg
mhrmmccGccscggwwhkrrh
fkrhhccRGGccccgmfk|cr
kcrfggkkfRGRkkkggfrcr
rcrkgmkckcGGfRkcgmrkk
rr|kfwggccccGGcchfrhm
hgrrhfwwgcscccckmhrff
gtrfmwwwggZkckchffrgh
grrrhwYwwgckfhfvggrvf
rggvrrwggccktggggrrhh
fhgggmr\ckkgmggrrgfmf
htghfhgcrCCCfrrgggggf
mhfmfkkckC2Crggftgggg
ffwfkccckgCggfmhhfghm
In order to put things on the map, you need to create a scenario file like the one I posted at the top. I will now merge the map data with the scenario file. Note the location of the quotation marks in map_data:

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[multiplayer]
	id=multiplayer_retlin
	name= _ "Retlin's Awesome Map"
	map_data="hgffhmfghgggkcckhfhmm
ggtghggggCCCkckfmhwfh
fgggmfgrrC1Ckckfmgfvm
hmgggrrghgCkr\gggggfh
fhgrrgggfkkccgrrgvggm
mvrggvghtkcggwwwrrgrr
hgrfghfkfkcgwwYwhmrtg
ffrfhkccccZcgwwmfrrgg
mhrmmccGccscggwwhkrrh
fkrhhccRGGccccgmfk|cr
kcrfggkkfRGRkkkggfrcr
rcrkgmkckcGGfRkcgmrkk
rr|kfwggccccGGcchfrhm
hgrrhfwwgcscccckmhrff
gtrfmwwwggZkckchffrgh
grrrhwYwwgckfhfvggrvf
rggvrrwggccktggggrrhh
fhgggmr\ckkgmggrrgfmf
htghfhgcrCCCfrrgggggf
mhfmfkkckC2Crggftgggg
ffwfkccckgCggfmhhfghm"
	description= _ "A duel map for super fast play. Recommended setting of 2 gold per village."

	{DEFAULT_SCHEDULE}

	[side]
	side=1
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=north
	[/side]
	[side]
	side=2
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=south
	[/side]

[/multiplayer]
If you save that as a .cfg file in your userdata/data/campaigns directory, it will show up on the list of maps you can play in multiplayer.

The hard part is past us. Understanding how information is stored and the various forms map data can take are key steps. The game recognizes both types of files - the pure map data only, i.e. the rectangle of characters in the text file, as well as the map data wrapped in [multiplayer] tags to create a scenario file.
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Post by scott »

Here's part 2. Now that you have a functioning scenario file for your multiplayer map, you can use WML to add anything you want to it. The WML to add a unit to the map looks like this:

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[event]
name=prestart

[unit]
type=Spearman
x,y=10,10
side=1
[/unit]
[/event]
Most actions should be placed inside an event. There is a long list of things you can do inside events, and [unit] creates a unit.

Now all you have to do is stick the WML anywhere inside the scenario file.

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[multiplayer]
	id=multiplayer_retlin
	name= _ "Retlin's Awesome Map"
	map_data="hgffhmfghgggkcckhfhmm
ggtghggggCCCkckfmhwfh
fgggmfgrrC1Ckckfmgfvm
hmgggrrghgCkr\gggggfh
fhgrrgggfkkccgrrgvggm
mvrggvghtkcggwwwrrgrr
hgrfghfkfkcgwwYwhmrtg
ffrfhkccccZcgwwmfrrgg
mhrmmccGccscggwwhkrrh
fkrhhccRGGccccgmfk|cr
kcrfggkkfRGRkkkggfrcr
rcrkgmkckcGGfRkcgmrkk
rr|kfwggccccGGcchfrhm
hgrrhfwwgcscccckmhrff
gtrfmwwwggZkckchffrgh
grrrhwYwwgckfhfvggrvf
rggvrrwggccktggggrrhh
fhgggmr\ckkgmggrrgfmf
htghfhgcrCCCfrrgggggf
mhfmfkkckC2Crggftgggg
ffwfkccckgCggfmhhfghm"
	description= _ "A duel map for super fast play. Recommended setting of 2 gold per village."

	{DEFAULT_SCHEDULE}

	[side]
	side=1
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=north
	[/side]
	[side]
	side=2
	canrecruit=1
	controller=human
	team_name=south
	[/side]

[event]
name=prestart

[unit]
type=Spearman
x,y=10,10
side=1
[/unit]
[/event]

[/multiplayer]
That should do it. Good luck.
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Post by Retlin »

ok, cool, but where do i get WML?
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Post by scott »

Retlin wrote:ok, cool, but where do i get WML?
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/ReferenceWML
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/EventWML
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/DirectActionsWML
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/InterfaceActionsWML
http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/SingleUnitWML
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Post by Retlin »

ok. How do you open it? I found, on my comp, a bunch of WML files, but couldnt open them. Do I make a text document and then put the code in it?
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Post by Jose Luis »

Retlin wrote:ok. How do you open it? I found, on my comp, a bunch of WML files, but couldnt open them. Do I make a text document and then put the code in it?
Exactly. Any text editor is ok (but many people here uses emacs)
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Post by scott »

You can open them if you tell your computer to ignore the file extension. Nearly all the files you will encounter are ascii text with a .cfg extension instead of a .txt extension.
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Post by toms »

I just want to add that I learned all my WML knowledge from scenario files and I think it´s
the best way to download the "Generic Campaign" (no gameplay value) and look at its
cfg files. It gives a good starting help. The wiki is more useful as a quick help to all tags. :wink:
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Retlin
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Post by Retlin »

OK, I have an Imac, would appleworks work for the code? And if it does, what do I save it as and where do I put it?
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Post by appleide »

Do you have OS X? (You must have... That was a stupid question..). Go into your applications folder, drag textedit into your dock (you'll need it often, messing around with WML ;) ) Then drag the .cfg files into the textedit app in your dock, and they'll be opened as txt files. When you create a new .cfg file, remember to make it PLAIN text. And when you save it, uncheck "hide extension" and "auto-add .txt extension" in the save dialog.

Hope it helps :)
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Post by Retlin »

THANKS ALOT!!
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Post by Retlin »

Also, where do you get the giant block of letters for the map data? (i feel like such a noob…… :oops: )
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